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you become a son of God by believing on Jesus's name.

What is not said in Scripture is that everyone in the Old
Testament did only evil. The Scripture does say that some did
right and some did evil.

Eli, the priest, was good but he did evil.

The Psalmist said what Paul quoted when he said "all have
sinned and come short of the glory of God."

There is some measure of the evilness of sin as clearly an
"abomination" was must worse than a "transgression".

"For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed
God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness." [Romans
4:3]

This believing was an act of faith. Was the sacrifices to God
by others also acts of faith and thus counted towards
righteousness?

God considered man responsible for his actions after the fall
just as much as before the fall.

When it is said that man is totally depraved it implies that
man is not responsible for his actions as only Adam was
responsible. I cannot accept this conclusion. I do not see
it in Scripture.

The Scripture does say in Romans 3:23 that "all have sinned
and come short of the glory of God." This is a New Testament
conclusion of Romans 3:10-18 which starts out: "As it is
written, There is none righteous." This is really the heart
of the teaching of the total depravity of man and is portrayed
as a New Testament doctrine.

The phrase, "As it is written", clearly throws the truth into
the Old Testament as that is where it is written. The Romans
quote is from Psalms which was written by David, the first of
the many kings described in the books of I Kings, II Kings, I
Chronicles, and II Chronicles.

All through Kings and Chronicles the statements about the new
king either "did evil in the sight of the Lord" or "did what
was right in the sight of the Lord". Sometimes, of those that
did right the exception was given, "but not with a perfect
heart".

Those that teach "total depravity" draw the line as to who
gets in and who is excluded very close to their own teaching
saying that the Old Testament saints get in by "looking
forward to Jesus Christ on the cross". This does not measure
up to Scripture as the sacrifice of Jesus for the sins of the
world is described as a "mystery" which no one knew until
after Jesus was crucified and rose again.

How about what the New Testament does say. Jesus said that:

"For he that is not against us is on our part."
[Mark 9:40]

The Apostle John says:

"Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of
God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God." [1 John
4:15]

John the Baptist taught repentance. This is a vital part of
New Testament teaching just as it was in the Old Testament.

The New Testament clearly defines the line with: "Who do you
worship; God through Jesus Christ or some other god?" Now it
is just as easy in the New Testament as it was in the Old
Testament to slip from following the true God to follow some
false god.

"If my people, which are called by my name, shall
humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from
their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will
forgive their sin, and will heal their land." [2 Chronicles
7:14]

Anyone who claims to be Christian is included in the "called
by My Name". They may or may not need more or less
forgiveness of their sins based on just how they are living.

We like to think that everything is sin and that we all need
forgiveness every day. Perhaps there is some truth in that
but we really need to keep our definitions based on Scripture.
Let's deal with the sins talked about in Scripture.

Let's also talk about stumbling blocks. If someone says you
need to do such and such or you have to not do such and such,
and these items are not clearly defined in Scripture, then
those things become stumbling blocks that hinder rather than
help. We need to make stepping stones and not stumbling
blocks. Let's deal with what is important and Scriptural.

The concept of "total depravity" is not a necessary doctrine
for the truth of "original sin". To say so, constitutes an
"extreme" doctrinal position.

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